Candid conversations on calling & courage, with Sarah Gerdes and Chris Grant.
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The engine of the show is the contrast between them, momentum meeting reflection, across a partnership of nearly three decades.

Three decades of experience, having raised well over five hundred million dollars across many industries, and having navigated her own path as a single parent. She leads with the living-by-the-prompt conviction that guides her, and keeps the conversation moving forward.

The audience's “proxy in the room”, asking the questions a thoughtful listener would ask and pressing gently on consequences, motivations, risks. Then shifting into a more philosophical register as the reflective counterweight to the discussions at hand.
Most of us feel the pull toward something. Far fewer move on it. The show lives in that gap, the distance between hearing the call and having the courage to answer.
A calling, an instinct, a conviction, the quiet voice that points you toward a direction before the world tells you it makes sense.
The decision to move. The physical courage to follow the prompt instead of talking yourself out of it.
Nearly everyone feels the prompt. Most never take the leap. That distance, and how people cross it, is the whole show.
This comes down to lived experience, honest failure, and the quiet judgment it takes to move when it matters, a universal, everyday calling, whatever you believe.
A full hour of real conversation, built around the questions the hosts have spent careers living.
How people endure, adapt, and use time well amid pressure and change.
The private, unwitnessed moments where the real decisions actually get made.
Recognizing the inner signal, and the discipline of learning to trust it.
Reframing success and wealth as responsibility rather than accumulation.
Conversations on calling and courage, with the guests and hosts who have lived the leap. Browse the full guide and search by guest, title, or date.
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